re: Minnesota shutdown

Hi, Glenn- Sounds like you and Puppy are in the same camp with respect to human nature. Yes, I agree about the advantages of a shut down. From my experience with Bethel students, mostly heritage Republicans, very few realize how big a positive role government has had in their lives. E.G., most women didn't realize there would be no women's athletic programs without Title 9 of the Civil Rights Act; they just hold that women's athletics is natural and right, so of course it's there, but not particularly as a policy result. Or student loan guarantees: Why shouldn't someone lend them thousands of dollars at low interest without collateral -- they're good people, after all, don't intend to default, and are spending it for a good cause. When they think of "gummimint" it's usually the things they disagree with.